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iso_55 · 05-01-2010, 12:09 PM

Thanks Chill, 2 thoughts come to mind. One, I sure like the look of our front four. It will be dynamite. And only 3 qbs, the same three as last year. Look for the Stamps to bring one or maybe two more guys in for training camp.

Christoph · 05-01-2010, 12:12 PM

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I am a bit concerned that Collins will struggle with his run responsibilities at 180 lbs. He'll have to take on offensive linemen, get off their blocks and make tackles. He's pretty small for that.

Yikes. Yeah I definitely didn't realize he was that light. He's a fairly tall guy and at safety he seemed like one of the bigger guys. But I guess linebacker is a whole different beast.

10 Inches Deep · 05-03-2010, 07:16 AM

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It is speculated that the Stamp's will draft a Lineman first over all but It is possible they will draft a kicker at the #1 spot.

Calz'em Like I Seez'em - Kicker First Overall.

Trojan97 · 05-05-2010, 09:17 PM

Two things...

#1. If Milton Collins could handle the Sam spot it would be great for our ratio flexibility as we could then go with an all NI Safety spot with Lysack, Fraser and possibly Allen. Keon Raymond is a fair option as well if he continues to show improvement.

#2. Rob McCune is going to be a beast. He's absolutely huge and can obviously play having been drafted and consistently hanging around the NFL. As long as he's not a bandaid I think this is going to end up being a great signing.

Childress · 05-05-2010, 11:55 PM

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Two things...

#1. If Milton Collins could handle the Sam spot it would be great for our ratio flexibility as we could then go with an all NI Safety spot with Lysack, Fraser and possibly Allen. Keon Raymond is a fair option as well if he continues to show improvement.

#2. Rob McCune is going to be a beast. He's absolutely huge and can obviously play having been drafted and consistently hanging around the NFL. As long as he's not a bandaid I think this is going to end up being a great signing.

I agree on both fronts.

A linebacking crew of Jackson - McCune - Collins doesn't look so bad. Carpenter struggled with the run last year, as a converted DB, but Collins has two things working in his favour that Carpenter didn't have. First, Carpenter was playing WIL, which requires more run stopping responsibilities. The SAM position most times is a 6th DB, running around and covering the a receiver. Secondly, Carpenter was playing behind a very weak d-line, and so constantly had offensive linemen in his face. Collins will have a monster d-line in front of him, which will free him up a lot more. I think we'll be okay. Jackson will be better than last year. McCune will be as good as Johnson. Collins will play better for us that James did in 2009. Our defense will be top notch.

To me, the worry will be on the offensive line. I think if one of the recruited imports can do a good job at right tackle, we can get together three interior linemen that will play good from the Canadians we assemble.

Christoph · 05-06-2010, 02:48 AM

Here's a scouting report I found on McCune, who according to USA Today served in the military apparently hauling 50 pound rocks around Kuwait... presumably to use in catapults against Iraqi troops.

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Looks like this is a special teams pick - as most 2nd days should be.

(6-0, 245, 4.51) Louisville

Positives:

Very Thickly built. Passes the eye-ball test the minutes he walks through the door. Looks like he was weaned on a weightlifting machine. Has benchpressed 470 pounds. Has very good straight-line speed.

Negatives:

Too straight-linish and stiff. Lacks top instincts anticipation. Late reactor at times. Runs around blocks instead of taking them on. Does not play downhill. Makes a lot of tackles downfield. Has some trouble breaking down in the open field. Not as physical as scouts would like and expect him to be at his size. Needs reps and will be a 26 year-old rookie.

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Best suited to play "Will" at the next level where he is free to run to the ball. A 5th to 7th round prospect with value on specials teams.

tnemeriter2002 · 05-11-2010, 11:58 AM

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Bryne is not shown on the roster any longer. lots of changes on the Oline

Also there has been no further news on Haynes, Batterson, or Eteuati. Not sure if they were no shows, or the Stamps just have not got around to announcing their signings yet. Either way they could do a better job of informing the fans of what is going on, as we (the faithful fans) like to know what is happening in the way of new transactions.

FLAMESTR · 05-17-2010, 07:56 PM

So is ever comfortable with Tate as the number 2 this season.

kclay · 05-17-2010, 11:23 PM

More so than the one trick pony that is Barrick Nealy... the guy can't throw the ball

RainMaker · 05-18-2010, 08:37 AM

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More so than the one trick pony that is Barrick Nealy... the guy can't throw the ball

Maybe he'll be the third FB referenced in another thread?

pigskin47 · 05-18-2010, 04:12 PM

Maybe we should be taking advantage of Nealy's running ability on third and short situations much the way the Lions and Alouettes have been doing with their back-up quarterbacks. It plays to his strength, it gives Henry a break from the pounding he takes on third downs, and it gives Nealy some much-needed gametime exposure. I'm still good with Tate being the number 2 man as he seems to be more rounded than Nealy.

Christoph · 05-18-2010, 05:16 PM

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Maybe we should be taking advantage of Nealy's running ability on third and short situations much the way the Lions and Alouettes have been doing with their back-up quarterbacks. It plays to his strength, it gives Henry a break from the pounding he takes on third downs, and it gives Nealy some much-needed gametime exposure. I'm still good with Tate being the number 2 man as he seems to be more rounded than Nealy.

You know what, I actually think that's a really good idea. Besides Henry sometimes tends to leave the ball hanging out there like a loaf of bread (weird saying I know but you know what I mean) which can be a little scary. That and I really don't think he's as fleet of foot as he once was. Sure he's bulked up a lot, so that's probably a benefit in short yardage, but I'd rather not risk having the number one quarterback plunging into scrums of 250 to 300 pound men in the first place. Barrick Nealy is a big man himself. He's also one of the best, if not the best running, running quarterbacks in the league. You could have some plays worked in where instead of having him go straight up the middle, he bounces it off tackle and maybe breaks one past that first wave of defenders creeping up on the line.

Childress · 05-19-2010, 12:13 AM

Personally, I don't like the idea of pulling Burris for one play. Every time you do that, your risk of fumbling the centre - QB exchange increases 100 fold. There is a rythym the two players get into, and a cold QB coming off the bench just scares me. I would be interested in a statistical analysis of the frequency of fumbles by QBs that come in for one play vs regular QB duty. I think Jyles fumbled a few times in this situation last year.

Christoph · 05-19-2010, 07:06 PM

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Personally, I don't like the idea of pulling Burris for one play. Every time you do that, your risk of fumbling the centre - QB exchange increases 100 fold. There is a rythym the two players get into, and a cold QB coming off the bench just scares me. I would be interested in a statistical analysis of the frequency of fumbles by QBs that come in for one play vs regular QB duty. I think Jyles fumbled a few times in this situation last year.

Fine keep Burris in when the chips are down in the playoffs, but why risk an injury to him that could cost you the whole season otherwise. In a regular season game, I'd rather risk a fumble (although I'm not entirely convinced it's an increased risk) than risk my starter to injury. Especially when the backups do not look like capable starters.

Childress · 05-19-2010, 07:15 PM

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Fine keep Burris in when the chips are down in the playoffs, but why risk an injury to him that could cost you the whole season otherwise. In a regular season game, I'd rather risk a fumble (although I'm not entirely convinced it's an increased risk) than risk my starter to injury. Especially when the backups do not look like capable starters.

I can't ever remember seeing an injury happen on a third down plunge by a QB.

stamphater · 05-19-2010, 07:21 PM

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I can't ever remember seeing an injury happen on a third down plunge by a QB.

Pretty sure Kevin Glenn broke his arm in the East Final in 2007 on that exact play. A year or two before that it also happened but I can't for the life of me remember to who.

Lefty · 05-19-2010, 08:04 PM

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I can't ever remember seeing an injury happen on a third down plunge by a QB.

Didn't we have a guy called Gesser (or something like that) a few years back that we got from BC who got hurt on a 3rd down plunge?

Christoph · 05-20-2010, 06:57 PM

It's also just unnecessary wear and tear on your franchise player in general.

Lifelong Stamps Fan · 05-21-2010, 11:18 AM

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I can't ever remember seeing an injury happen on a third down plunge by a QB.

Three years ago, U of C lost their starting QB in a lousy exhibition game in Red Deer on a QB sneak. Casey Brown blew out his knee.

pigskin47 · 05-21-2010, 12:34 PM

I understand your point, Childress, but if we don't utilize our back-ups in game situations when will they ever develop the composure necessary to step in should the occasion require? Surely the coaching staff will make sure that both our second and third string QB's spend practice time with Lazeo to get some familiarity with each other.